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Post by bigred on Mon May 14, 2012 7:55 pm

I call it from the start of the season that etobicoke elite was going to be in D1 no matter what their record was lol it must be nice have your coach on the ranking committee. Etobicoke #1 was the better team so how could they get push to D2. I called it the ranking committee help themself . nothing more to say about OBA and Their rankings.
division 1
Baller Sports Club Inc. 1 1
Burlington Skyhawks #1 2 1
Blessed Sacrament - Nation 3 1
MUMBA 4 1
Whitby Wildcats 5 1
Wildhawk Basketball 6 1
Barrie Royals 7 1
Etobicoke Thunder Elite 8 1

Division 2

Etobicoke Thunder #1 9 2
Durham City Basketball Association United 10 2
Burlington Panthers #1 11 2
London Ramblers #1 12 2 ----Lol 1 win 4 loss and D2
YAAACE 13 2
Oakville Venom #1 14 2
Blessed Sacrament - Gunter 15 2
IEM Spartans Elite 16 2

Division 3

Simcoe Suns 17 3
Blessed Sacrament - Ravida 18 3
Kingston Impact 19 3
Ottawa Next Level Basketball 20 3 ------4 wins 11 loss and they in 3 wow
Ottawa Guardsmen Basketball Club 21 3
Mississauga Minor Basketball Association
#1 22 3
Collingwood Trailblazers 23 3
U-PLAY Basketball 24 3 ----2 wins 5 loss division3 lol


Waterloo Wolverines 25 4
Grimsby Basketball Association GBA ELITE 26 4
KW Vipers #1 27 4
Brampton Minor Basketball Association 28 4
Toronto Five-O 29 4
Guelph CYO All-Star 30 4
Burlington Panthers #2 31 4
Valhalla Youth 32 4
HYPE SPORTS 33 5
Whitby Saints 34 5
Centre Wellington Celtics 35 5
Milton Stags 36 5
Hamilton Wildcats 37 5
North Toronto Basketball Association 38 5
Toronto Lords 39 5
Guelph Youth Basketball Association 40 5
Scarborough Basketball - Salicksingh 41 6
IEM Aurora 42 6
Orangeville Hawks 43 6
Lindsay Wildcats 44 6
Brantford Rep 45 6
East-Side City Warriors 46 6
Penetanguishene-Midland Basketball 47 6
GladiatorS Basketball 48 6
Orillia Lakers 49 7
Sudbury Youth Basketball Association 50 7
Toronto Triple Threat 51 7
Cambridge Basketball 52 7
Guelph Youth Basketball Association #2 53 7
Huntsville Hurricanes 54 7
Burlington Skyhawks #2 55 7
West Ferris Spartans 56 7
Kitchener-Waterloo Vipers #2 57 8
Strathroy Jammers 58 8




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Post by YoungBuckz on Tue May 15, 2012 12:18 am

where did you get this from?

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Post by TorontoBallJunkie on Tue May 15, 2012 12:32 am

This is why none of the top players play OBA anymore. These coaches are corrupt. Have an impartial group do the rankings for each age group. Hopefully some teams will appeal their rankings, but in reality its better for a team to be ranked high in D2 rather that getting blown out in D1, so keep Etobicoke Elite in D1 and let them get smacked by Ballers and Whitby or MUMBA

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Post by Clash on Tue May 15, 2012 7:40 pm

The OBA never ceases to amaze me with their incompetence. I know itís not an exact science in ranking and seeding teams but they (OBA) need to stop with the crap. You have for the most part members of the seeding and ranking committee that is bias against certain organizations, teams and coaches. Some of the members are on the committee to ensure that their organization, team or coaching/ref buddy gets looked after.

They did the same thing to St. Davidís and Mississauga Monarchs last year, they ranked them both 6th and 7th respectively and they both ended up playing in the Provincial final. I know things happen but clearly they were way off on that one.

This year is even more of a joke than last year.
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Consistency

Post by ballercoach on Wed May 16, 2012 1:31 pm

Hello may name is Coach Fred, Head Coach of the Ballers U19 Jr. Boys team. Itís quite ironic that I have decided to post my views on this topic since my team has been granted the Div 1 1st place seed in the OBA U19 Jr. ranking and seeding. But I hope that I can help to shed some light on this topic. Itís nice to see that the OBA U19 Jr. age group is generating some good discussions but hopefully with some insight we can objectively look at the ranking and seeding selection process. I would agree that in the past the OBA ranking and seeding selection process has been, at times, inaccurate. But due to numerous discussions, emails and on-line post the OBA has recognized the issues and continues to develop and implement different strategies and systems that will eventually help them to come up with the best possible working formula.

But despite how much human intervention and computer software is used the bottom line is Consistency. How consistent are some of these team at winning basketball games? I have had the opportunity to watch several U19 tournaments this season and had discussions with many U19 Jr. Coaches as well as the many University and College Coaches scouting the tournaments and exhibition games. The consensus among the Coaches is that all of the U19 teams are inconsistent at winning basketball games. A team for instance will beat a top U19 team today and the loose to a middle of the pack U19 team tomorrow. Also, another factor is winning tournaments and games in early March and early April and then loosing games in late April and May heading into the OBA Provincial Cup. This posses an issue because teams take time to come together, if team "A" beats team "B" at he beginning of the season and then losses to team "B" towards the end of the season then which game carries more weight in the final ranking and seeding?

The bottom line is if you want to be at the top then teams must consistently win basketball games and tournaments. One of the most important factors is the players themselves, players must also be held accountable for their teamís inconsistencies and successes. A teamís ability to win basketball games largely depend on the players on the team, the more they practice and play together helps to develop their individual skills and team chemistry which then results in winning basketball games.

How ever, by talking to many U19 Jr. Coaches it is quite apparent that many of the U19 players, for what ever reasons, miss a number of practices and games making their teams unstable. Injuries and long high school seasons are resulting in over worked players, players not taking it seriously, players off playing on different AAU teams and missing OBA games, there are a number of reasons and outside influences that ultimately influence a teamís success and play a huge part in how teams are ranked and seeded. Yes the OBA is not perfect but there are many, many other factors involved; to be seeded correctly teams must consistently win basketball games no ifís, andís or butís about it.

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Post by bigred on Wed May 16, 2012 7:20 pm

Final ranking update.lmao
D1
Baller Sports Club Inc. 1 1
Blessed Sacrament - Nation 2 1
Burlington Skyhawks #1 3 1
MUMBA 4 1
Whitby Wildcats 5 1
Wildhawk Basketball 6 1
London Ramblers #1 7 1
Durham City Basketball Association United 8 1

D2
Barrie Royals 9 2
Etobicoke Thunder Elite 10 2
Burlington Panthers #1 11 2
Etobicoke Thunder #1 12 2
YAAACE 13 2
Blessed Sacrament - Gunter 14 2
IEM Spartans Elite 15 2
Kingston Impact 16 2

D3
York North Basketball 17 3
Blessed Sacrament - Ravida 18 3
Simcoe Suns 19 3
Oakville Venom #1 20 3
Ottawa Next Level Basketball 21 3
Ottawa Guardsmen Basketball Club 22 3
Mississauga Minor Basketball Association
#1 23 3
KW Vipers #1 24 3

D4
U-PLAY Basketball 25 4
Waterloo Wolverines 26 4
Grimsby Basketball Association GBA ELITE 27 4
Collingwood Trailblazers 28 4
Brampton Minor Basketball Association 29 4
Toronto Five-O 30 4
Guelph CYO All-Star 31 4
Burlington Panthers #2 32 4
Valhalla Youth 33 5
Guelph Youth Basketball Association 34 5
HYPE SPORTS 35 5
Whitby Saints 36 5
Centre Wellington Celtics 37 5
Milton Stags 38 5
Hamilton Wildcats 39 5
North Toronto Basketball Association 40 5
Toronto Lords 41 6
Scarborough Basketball - Salicksingh 42 6
IEM Aurora 43 6
Orangeville Hawks 44 6
Brantford Rep 45 6
East-Side City Warriors 46 6
Penetanguishene-Midland Basketball 47 6
GladiatorS Basketball 48 6
Orillia Lakers 49 7
Sudbury Youth Basketball Association 50 7
Toronto Triple Threat 51 7
Cambridge Basketball 52 7
Huntsville Hurricanes 53 7
Guelph Youth Basketball Association #2 54 7
Woodstock Chill 55 7
Burlington Skyhawks #2 56 7
West Ferris Spartans 57 8
Kitchener-Waterloo Vipers #2 58 8

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Some teams deserved their ranking, others not

Post by hoopslover on Thu May 31, 2012 6:39 pm

The U-19 division had some pretty cool competition. The top 4 division 1 teams all belonged, playing good ball, along with London. With provincials, everything's gotta come together just right to win. MUMBA won it all, even after losing by 18 to Ballers in pool play. And Baller deserved their ranking, even tho they lost to Blessed-Nation in the semis and ended up with bronze. And blessed ended up #2 - right where they were ranked to begin with. So, looks pretty good.

D2 was not so clean. That's where having a coach on the ranking comittee might have hurt the process some. Etob #1 was a better team than that "elite" team. The #1 team had better coaching, while no question YAAACE and IEM should have been ranked higher. Etob#1 losing in triple OT to the champs from IEM had to be the game of the tournament, but then the gold game went into OT too between IEM and Blessed-Gunter. Great job to all these teams, includin bronze medal YAAACE squad. Just a lot of really good ball from the U19 squads, and most deserved being in the top 2 divisions.

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