jt where you at?

SO MUCH BOOSTING!!!!

Peel won an all-star game vs. a disgruntled Durham team. Here comes jt and is talking about Peel as this and that. What happened at OFSAA?? Let us not forget.

If basketball was an all-star contest then it would suit Peel perfectly. Add systems, defense, pressure and discipline and they fold like cheap suits.

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Yeah so like Durham did anything at ofsaa?? Pickering got embarrased and Richardson didn't medal so it doesn't matter, unless you medal its all the same. Match up any of the Durham mans with Peel mans one and one and they will get eaten just like yesterday, wasn't even a challenge.

End of the day I have always been saying PEEL has the most TALENT and they proved it. Plus there could have easily been 10 more players on team this year if they didn't go to Prep.

I tell it like it is, I been saying that PEEL needs to straighten up and get the whole team thing going and everyone is always shocked saying how come Peel can't get a medal in ofsaa with all this talent. Then again its hard when you keep losing players each year to Prep ball in the states.

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Steve Nash, your post is written like someone who is selectively trying to prove a point while ignoring the obvious.

How is it that Peel has so much talent and yet no team can advance beyond the quarter-finals over the past decade or so?

I think the recent game vs. Durham and the fact that Peel has lost more players to the US in the past couple of years than any other region both speak for themselves. The region doesn't lack for talent.

So why the lack of final four berths?

I think it's pretty obvious that Peel, unlike the other regions, doesn't see its talent concentrated only a small number of schools. Let's face it, when some of the other regions have open borders (Toronto Public and Toronto Catholic), the best players are going to, quite rightly, go to the top programs. No rules are being broken and everything is above board but the fact is that this means that it is easier to create a powerhouse.

In other regions, despite more standardized boundaries, you still see many of the top players end up at only a small number of programs. For the longest time, there was really only one program that was going to win it all in Durham though now that has at lest expanded to two or three. In York, one team seems to routinely draw the best players at both the junior and senior level. Halton, is a whole other world, where questionable transfers seem to be approved all the time.

Peel seems to be the only region where the concentration of talent doesn't seem to take place at anything close to the level of the other regions. Whether this is simply due to less pressure to recruit, a larger number of programs that are attractive to players, or stricter transfer enforcement is up in the air. I will mention that Peel is the only region that has a rule that restricts grade 9s from outside a school's boundaries from playing sports in their first year unless they are part of a regional program. (e.g. AP, extended French, etc...and unlike Halton the high skills specialist majors are not included, and taken advantage of) They also have a regional administrator who is renowned throughout the province for being a stickler for the rules and very good at catching almost every irrgularity in transfer requests.

What this all means is that the talent in Peel is spread much thinner than most regions. Do some players manage to cross boundaries: sure, it's impossible to stop 100%. However, is it possible to build a basketball factory in Peel using players from throughout the wider region: no way. That, more than anything, is the reason Peel can't seem to break into the final four at OFSAA these days. It's a credit to programs lie D'Youville, Campion, Goetz, Loyola, and Ascension over the past few years that they have still managed to be competitive with the top GTA programs despite this.

so you are now saying that all the teams at OFSAA lost because they were less talented ? i dont think that is the case, campion and dyouville heavily underachieved, the other teams did not

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Sick post Peel Fan, that should shut up steve.nash1.

Everyone knows that Peel doesnt allow the shaningans like other GTA regions in allowing payers from all over the region to pick and choose what school they go to. If anything other regions like TDSB are "stealing" Peel players.

i love ball wrote:so you are now saying that all the teams at OFSAA lost because they were less talented ? i dont think that is the case, campion and dyouville heavily underachieved, the other teams did not

You're telling me that the #1 seed losing two straight isn't underachieving? That the #3 seed that many argued should have been seeded #1 losing in the quarters isn't underachieving? Talk about selective interpretation.

I don't know how I can make it any clearer: Peel does not have basketball magnet schools like the other regions. It is those magnet schools that allow them to build OFSAA powerhouses. Maybe Peel should start doing that, too since the other regions have no problem with this concentration of talent that goes well beyond any explanations of coincidence.

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jt wrote:Sick post Peel Fan, that should shut up steve.nash1.

Everyone knows that Peel doesnt allow the shaningans like other GTA regions in allowing payers from all over the region to pick and choose what school they go to. If anything other regions like TDSB are "stealing" Peel players.

I have no idea if that happens but the TDSB schools doesn't need to steal any players. Their board allows any high school student in the city of 2.5 million to attend pretty much any school in the board, unless it's a specialized school. (arts, special ed, etc.) It's all within the rules.

I want everyone to understand that I am not attacking the top schools in Toronto. They are operating within the rules of their boards. I am simply pointing out why it places an extra barrier in front of any Peel school that is trying to win a medal at OFSAA that doesn't seem to be in front of most of the powerhouse teams in other GTA regions. As well, all schools still need good coaching and a solid plan to maintain the program if they are going to succeed at the highest levels.

Trust me B town manz be reaching tdsb schools as we speak, some pretty big names to at the junior level. There are also some sauga mans that are in toronto schools too.

Before this whole US Prep school thing began, Father Henry Carr was like a Prep school and all these Peel, mostly brampton mans would be going there.

Here is another point.

Im almost positive that every single player on that Peel All Star team goes to their home school.

Can the other regions say the same thing?

"Here is another point.

Im almost positive that every single player on that Peel All Star team goes to their home school.

Can the other regions say the same thing?"

York and Halton probably have a lot of players that are going to their home schools I think. Halton I am pretty sure has quite a few that aren't in home school (especially Pickering), and let's not even get started with TDSB Public and Catholic, I would surprised if one or two did actually attend their home schools haha.

The best team in Peel this season was DY and they couldn't even beat a terrible St. Mikes team.

Mother Teresa does not encourage players from outside its boundaries. In fact, we have discouraged a number of would-be transfers over the years who were not within reasonable distance of the school.

Ten of the 12 players on MT senior team this year live very close to MT (its their closest school) and the other 2 live a very reasonable distance from MT. One of those other 2 is from Malvern.

Also we would have Negus, Nick Lewis, and Shaq from Pope if they had to go to their closest school!

Malvern remains a hotbed for basketball and we do encourage local players to attend our school.

Just as a point of information. Scarborough Blues who featured Maurice Walker, Ashton Khan, Ancil Martin of Mother Teresa along with Cory Joseph and more battled with Bounce several times over the years and won more than they lost.

In fact that core of players won the Junior D-1 Championship last season and could have returned all of our players had we not disbanded due to financial concerns.

That includes in Major Bantam when CIA Bounce boasted Tristan Thompson, Kofi Mensah, Melvin Ejim and Taevaunn Prince prior to their exodus. It was a great rivalry.

So, Peel is not the only area that has top-flight talent!

[quote="steve.nash1"]The best team in Peel this season was DY and they couldn't even beat a terrible St. Mikes team.[/quote]

They beat St. Mikes earlier in the season with ease.

People arent taking note of the off court incident coachblue mentioned D'Y had. I will not say what it is because it is not my place. But I will say that it had nothing to do with the teams behavior. If the incident ever becomes public everyone will see that an OFSAA medal and a game against St.Mikes was not a priority on that day.

Let's not forget that D'Youville was ranked #7 and St. Mike's was ranked #9. I don't think it can be defined as a major upset as both teams were viewed by the seeding committee as being relatively close in calibre.

I thought St. Mike's played well this year at OFSSA. They were far from an easy out against MT.

Their coaching staff is second-to-none and they get the max from what they have to work with!

jt Fr Henry Carr is a prep school

"jt Fr Henry Carr is a prep school"

haha seems like it from the way they recruit, does anyone know how many kids are on their team that it is actually its HOME high school? I am very curious about that and that would be interesting to use as a base to compare with other schools and how much/little recruiting they do.

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that is not the issue, the issue here is the rules that allow TCDAA and TCDSB schools to grab players from other school, father henry carr isnt breaking rules, the rules are the problem

^^ Couldn't agree more. But Peel does have/had players from outside the area (ESPECIALLY about 4-5 yrs ago at certain schools). It's not hard to fake an address.

I dont see what the issue is at all. If somebody wants to go to a certain school to develop their basketball game, which they see as their future, how much different is that then somebody going to a special school for arts or sciences because they see that as their future?

Is anyone else tired of listening to Peel fans WHINE! First they dont win at ofsaa because of all the players that went prep, then its because carr/mt/eastern/pick "recruit" players from all over, next peel region talent spread out between too many teams then suddenly d'y loses because of an "off court incident" which cannot be revealed. STOP making excuses. I dont read on here any eastrn/pick/carr fans making excuses, they all lost at ofsaa or before plain and simple. Did those teams have kids go prep? YES, did they have off court problems? probably since the players are TEENAGERS after all. When has a Peel team done well at 4A ofsaa? Pick has 2 gold/2 bronze and we all know about EASTERN! Im just tired of reading about the excuses from the peel backers.