Would have been year D'Youville smacking teams by 50...

...If Tristan Thompson had stayed behind at D'Youville. In addition, Sim Bhullar (7 foot 4 inches) also would have been a senior this year if he hadn't left to go play prep in states. So imagine their front court line-up: Centre-Sim (7'4"), Power Forward-Tristan (6'9") and Small Forward-Manny Sahota (6'6"). Also, Anthony Bennet (6'8") (also moved to prep school this year and he is another outstanding up and comer from HB a school just down the road from D'Y), who knows he might have transferred to D'Y this year too if other 3 stars were there.

Can you guys just picture this scenario with these players who are all going to end up in D1 schools? It gives me goosebumps just thinking about it. We might of as well have handed OFFSA championship to them at beginning of season. I guarantee no team would have been able to beat them, let alone even come 30 points close to them.

I feel that The Sandlewood Strip (North Brampton) is the hottest place for basketball ANYWHERE in Toronto right now. There are so many sick players from that area that are in American Prep schools and also many are playing in TDSB schools too by giving alternate addresses to get more exposure. Don't worry big things for Brampton basketball future. What are your guys thoughts on this??

pickering and mother teresa would have given them a game. with corey joseph and kevin thomas and liban hassan and for mother teresa, maurice walker the augustine brothers and ashton khan. sim bhullar sucks btw

Dont forget FHC lost Derrick Osei, Josh Ogden, Dean Douglas, Kadeem Thomspon, Kadar Marshall, Taevaunn Prince and Kevin Thomas...six would be starters today.

Tru Sim isn't all that, but I don't care what anyone says when you 7'4" your presence is definitely going to be felt. You are going to get enough rebounds and also block shots for sure or even alter them. You are going to think twice before driving on a man that big, just human nature.

Yeah I am sure a lot of those Toronto schools have lost players to prep school, but answer me this, "How many of them live in the feeder school boundary for that high school?" We all know that Toronto schools have players coming from all over the city. They are allowed to go to any high school in TDSB after grade 8, as long as their is space in school. In Peel, you have to go your high school in your boundary, no picking and choosing schools (unless you give fake address, even then its very hard now).

I don't care what anyone says, Sandlewood Strip is producing the best ballers now and up and coming. Within a couple of kilometres you have the following 5 schools: Sandlewood Heights, D'Youville, Harold Brathwaite, Fletchers Meadows and Campion.

By the way, in the past, and I am pretty sure now too, at least 3 or 4 Brampton players would be going to play at Father Henry Carr. I am pretty sure that Tyler Ennis and Tevin Findlay, two of best players at Carr are from Brampton? Can anyone verify where these two guys live?

Verify what? They can live and go to school wherever they choose...and neither chose the schools you are boosting.

No you have my point all wrong, I am not boosting the schools, I am boosting the AREA. Technically in Peel you can only go to school in the area you live NOT "wherever they choose". In addition, you can only go to school in the municipality that you pay property taxes to.

So if Brampton players are going to school in TDSB, there are ONLY two options:
1) They have another parent that lives/rents a place in Toronto
2) They are giving a "fake" address of a relative in that region

My point is if all these players from that part of Brampton actually stayed in those schools, no one would be able to stop these schools. The fact they choose to go somewhere else is another story and yes that means those high schools have to work harder to prove to these young players they should stay local.

Actually you are quite incorrect. Peel may have their own boundaries, but that is where ends. Mike Harris opened the boundaries many, many years ago.

edit: nevermind!

I am 100% sure that in Peel they will not let you pick and choose schools. So why is that? The only way you can attend another school other than your "home" school is if you attend a "regional" program (IB, French Immersion, etc.).

So are you telling me that kids can go to any school they want in all of Ontario? I never knew that, but you are a teacher, so I believe you if you say so. The only way I hear of kids doing that in Peel is by illegal means ("fake" relatives addresses).

So are Tyler and Tevin still living in Brampton? I am just curious, not trying to rub it in or anything. I know they both completed grade 8 in Brampton. Did they move to Rexdale or still in Brampton?

You have nothing to rub in. But for someone who comes on here using the name "jt", you ask some personal questions. Why dont you come to the next FHC game and ask their parents such personal questions. I can assure you they do not have to use fake addresses.

Give it a rest jt. Are you naive? Do you think that there are not other kids at other schools that do the same?

Isn't it pretty widely known that most of Carr's players don't actually live in Carr's immediate boundaries? At least alot of the juniors, anyways. The school is allowed to admit out of area students... so long as no local students got redirected because of overflow, of course. Not saying it's the greatest way to do it, but it's not 'illegal' per se, JT.

I didnt hear anybody complaining when some of North Etobicoke's best players were and are travelling over an hour by TTC to attend other schools.

You were at Runnymede at the time, and were not listening to the crys from North Etobicoke then.

I am talking about in the last 7 years while I have been at Henry Carr. We lose some, we gain some. But let's get real about this. Do you think there are not other players at other schools that travel? You cannot be serious. Talk to me privately and I will enighten you.

You can "hate on" me or Henry Carr, you can criticize all you want...we will still continue doing what we do, just as the other schools do..and there are many. Parents make decisions on where to send their kids. If they want to attend Henry Carr for basketball or for the AP program or for both and can get accepted, then great. If they choose to go elsewhere, that's great too.

Oh jt with the 'would have,could have' topic. Wasteless thinking like this does not do anything. And regionally we do have the same rules in Toronto. And if you want to think like this lets do MT. They could have Maurice,Richard Peters,Ashton,Ancil,Ryan,Akeem,Jason Calliste (chose Pope over MT),Negus,Nick,Jermaine,Jonathon and the list goes on and on. Remember this quote when you think such foolish thought, "If if's and buts were cherries and nuts then nobody would ever go hungry"

TDSB really needs to get their act together and not let players move around like this and then there wouldn't be this discussion. I know it does happen in Peel too, but nowhere to the extent it happens in TDSB. There is no Peel school principal that will take you simply because you want to attend their school. In Peel you MUST attend your "home" boundary school, unless you decide to apply for a regional program. Even then they will tell you which locations you can apply for that regional program. The only way you can attend another school in Peel if it isn't your "home" school or a regional program, is by lying and giving a "fake" address.

Basically in Peel academics come first and no principal cares if you will make their school better at sports. They simply want to take the students from the feeder schools. That is why Peel has so much parity amont teams because you don't have kids picking and choosing which school they want to attend. On the whole, I think it is more fair this way, and Peel should be a model TDSB should look at.

In reality, at most schools the 'outside our area' student athlete is an exception to the rule, a one (or two)-off. At certain schools, however, it is regular practice and many if not most of their basketball players don't live within those schools' boundaries. Do these schools actively encourage these outside students or influence them through their connections to rep clubs etc? Debatable. However, it would be naive to assert that this is somehow the norm or that most of the 'good teams/schools' have this situation where a high number of their players are from outside. There are quality teams who can say that the majority of their team is made up of students who came from feeder schools in the neighborhood or that those students legitimately moved into the neighborhood with their families.

jt do you realize that in your beloved Region of Peel there have been schools that are notorious for recruiting, and yet point the finger at other schools?

Why is this okay? Why do they only complain when the kids they recruited decide they are not happy and go elsewhere?

I am not concerned with what other coaches/teachers/schools are doing, but so many of you seem to be concerned with what I am doing, that I thought I would bring it up. I am not trying to be hurtful. In fact, I have tried to build relationships with many. But I am human like all of us and I am tired of the constant scrutiny that our program is under. Try to see the good that the teachers, coaches, players, and parents involved in the Henry Carr program have accomplished. That is all I ask.

Coach Melnik

What are the rules about crossing school board boundaries?

I know that the TDSB and TCDSB have open boundaries so any student living within the city of Toronto can go to any school within the city as long as there is space.

However, I was always under the impression that, unless it was a highly specialized program not available in a person's home school board (the most common example is for therapy and education programs for autistic children that are concentrated in the TDSB), you could not change school boards unless you changed guardianship to someone living within the new board's boundaries.

Peel Fan,

When crossing school board boundaries in Ontario, you need to obtain permission from both the school board in which you reside, AND the school board in which you want to attend.

As you said, I can really only see your home board granting acceptance if you were to leave for a specialized program. Likewise, the school board you want to attend would not be receiving any property tax dollars from you so their acceptance would probably be tough to obtain as well. So it's possible but highly unlikely unless its for a specialized program.

YRDSB and YCDSB grant let you transfer to any school in the Region as long as the Superintendent of School's grants this request, and the school is not at capacity.

Peel Fan and CoachImgrund are coming closer to what the crux of the matter is: cross-region travel. Yes, there are students who go to different schools within their region and those schools may technically not be the school they should be going to by virtue of school's immediate neighborhood boundary. However, as mentioned those students are the exception to the rule and in the end they are still representing their region ie Peel or whatever at tournaments and finally OFSAA.

What people seem to have a huge issue with is a high number of, say, Peel students who live in Brampton or Mississauga going to a completely different school board ie Toronto. Hard to argue with that concern, as everyone likes to have their region represented fairly..

Uncertain of the purpose of this thread. Is it a general discussion on the pros and cons of moving to a school outside of one's area or a chance to point fingers and speculate?

WRT d'Youville or any other school - what if one or some of those players didn't buy into the team concept or wanted to be a star elsewhere. The "Ifs and Buts" statement cited earlier definitely applies.

WRT to Transfer Rules and attending a program outside of one’s neighbourhood - people tend to change their opinion based on what’s occurred most recently in their area. I think that students should attend the local school that best suits their needs but don’t know what the answer is to prevent abuse of the rules. I think that any discussion should be kept at a general level and an anonymous internet forum is not a board of reference and not a place to throw out unsubstantiated specific accusations.

K so hold on, what is the big deal? If a school wants to get good at basketball, they recriut. Look at all the US Prep teams? Findlay prep's starting line-up? How many of those guys are even American citizens? If a team wants to be above the rest they do what they can. If a student wants to travel and there is space, why would they not be able to choose which school they go to? C'mon people this is not Iran or a communist country students are entitled to go wherever they like if they feel that a particular school would be better for them. Why would a student who plans to use basketball as a tool for developing their future go to a mediocre school like Chinguacousy or North Park? Because they live in the area? The points are endless, but at the end of the day, students are going to continue to choose their paths, whether it is close to their home or far away. This is exactly why our talented basketball players leave Canada to go somewhere else. It is is simply becuase schools here DO NOT TAKE PRIDE IN THEIR BASKETBALL PROGRAM!


CANADA BASKETBALL NEEDS A MAKEOVER WE WILL NEVER GET!

(on a side note, if our best players keep leaving here, expect a better olympic team, then when they do better on the world stage, Canada basketball will get the makeover its been waiting for !)

I don't this is a matter of socialism or capitalism. Don't use inflammatory rhetoric for no good reason. We all agree people should have a choice and that they should be responsible for their choices. I think we all want those making decisions to have the most accurate information possible.

We are trying to figure out whether those choices are the best choice for the student-athlete. Basketball can be a tool but it is only a part of the entire student-athlete. Many of these prep schools may not be the best fit for the person involved. But it's their choice.

I think CB has their act together. There is a good system in place and Nike will provide some of the money the government has taken away. BO camps are good but slightly expensive. There are good coaches in the GTA and good tournaments. University coaches are always there. But - as pananthas said in another thread - let's coach the kids who are here and enhance their school experience.