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    Post by HooptownGTA Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:26 pm

    QF#4: Brampton Centennial 65 (Reece Brooks 30) - West Humber 60 (Travis Williams 19)

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    Post by HooptownGTA Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:31 pm

    Championship Quarter-finals: Saturday November 12th
    Q#1: Holy Trinity (Oakville) 63 (Paul Bray 16) - Assumption (Burlington) 33 (Caleb Agada 32)
    Q#2: Loyola (Oakville) 66 (Rohan Boney 26) - Eastern Commerce 57 (James Sylvester 19)
    Q#3: St. Martin (Mississauga) 88 (Naz Long 24) - ACMT (Hamilton) 81 (Hamid Nessek 27)
    Q#4: Brampton Centennial 65 (Reece Brooks 30) - West Humber 60 (Travis Williams 19)

    Championship Semi-finals: Sunday November 13th
    10:00am: Holy Trinity (Oakville) vs. Brampton Centennial @ McMaster Burridge Gym
    11:30am: Loyola (Oakville) vs. St. Martin (Mississauga) @ McMaster Burridge Gym

    Championship Final: 4:00pm @ McMaster Burridge Gym
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    Post by HooptownGTA Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:36 am

    Semi-finals #1:
    Holy Trinity 82 (Paul Bray 24, Nolan Mackenzie 17) - Brampton Centennial 62 (Reece Brooks 23)

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    Post by HooptownGTA Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:58 pm

    Semi-final #2:
    St. Martin (Mississauga) 75 (Naz Long 39) - Loyola (Oakville) 67 (Rohan Boney 27)
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    Post by HooptownGTA Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:40 pm

    Championship Final halftime score:

    Holy Trinity 30 - St Martin 26
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    Post by HooptownGTA Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:44 pm

    Championship Final: St. Martin 63 (Naz Long 27) - Holy Trinity (Oakville) 62 (Trevon McNeil 20) OT

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    Post by NBA Lockout Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:02 pm

    great tourney win for Naz and St. Martins, halton teams like loyola and trinity made a name for themselves proving why they are in the top 16. although ht was in the finals they definitely had the easier route then their halton rivals loyola. loyola beat a great eastern team and played a great game against martins.
    Watching the finals everyone could see naz was gassed from the loyola match up having to play against great defenders like boney and babic and other key role players. naz left shots short that he would usually be money on this allowed a decent ht squad to make it A LOT closer then it should have been, but expect loyola (boney and babic) and ht(mcneil and macenzie) to be a problem in the coming weeks.
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    Post by Dunbarton Coach Deighan Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:30 pm

    Just a random thought..but how often does a team lose their first game of a tournament and go on to win the tournament? Has this ever happened at OFSAA?
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    Post by bramptonbballfan Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:28 pm

    When St. Patricks from Ottawa and Emery from Toronto won AAA Ofsaa in the mid decade, both teams lost thier first game and went on to win AAA OFSAA. Either way St. Martins is a prep team not a high school team.
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    Post by rvd1018 Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:32 pm



    Also to add that their loss in the first game almost kept them from winning the group and advancing, as they only advanced because Westmount lost to Pineridge by two points which gave them a 2-1 record instead of a 3-0 and put the teams in a 3 way tie with martins advancing. Team must feel real good about themselves.
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    Post by HooptownGTA Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:09 pm

    Tournament MVP: Naz Long (St. Martin)

    1st Team All-Stars:
    Jordan Fray (St. Martin)
    Trevor McNeil (Holy Trinity Oakville)
    Nolan Mackenzie (Holy Trinity Oakville)
    Reece Brooks (Brampton Centennial)
    Rohan Boney (Loyola Oakville)

    2nd Team All-Stars:
    James Sylvester (Eastern Commerce)
    Caleb Agada (Assumption Burlington)
    Hamid Nessek (ACMT Hamilton)
    Travis Williams (West Humber)
    Jake Babic (Loyola Oakville)

    3rd Team All-Stars:
    Kevin Skollie (JC Richardson)
    Jamal Reynolds (Pine Ridge)
    David McCulloch (Cardinal Newman)
    Devonte Campbell (Villanova)
    Josh Arlauskis (Timmins)
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    Post by NBA Lockout Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:21 pm

    sure martins lost a game but they also won the big games that they needed. they beat a very talented loyola team in the semi's and then scraped put a win in overtime evn after being down 11 with 5 to go vs a trinity team who played well all tournament
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    Post by tart11 Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:38 pm

    congrats they win the pinky lewis, but won't make play-offs in their region...
    some ROPSSAA coaches who I have talked to have said that at the end of the season they will implement the rule that no ineligible players can play high school basketball in for peel teams. The same rule that durham has.

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    Post by tart11 Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:04 pm

    as well... you guys are impressed with a victory by a team that clearly recruited 4 or 5 great athletes...the playing field is not even....they beat high school teams in which (for the most part and with some exceptions) work only with what shows up in their gym from their neighbeirhoods.

    St Martin should be playing in the prep league this year,

    I have a question for Xavier rimrocker or anyone else knowledgeable about eligibiltiy, why wouldn't OFSSAA ban ineligible players all together. Meaning that ineligible players cannot compete for high school teams or against high school teams. What stops a coach from recruiting 6-7 kids at a school. They play in 8-9 tournaments for their grade 11 year and sit out the league season, then the next year they are eligible to play in league and OFSSAA cause technically they sat out a year.

    IF ofssaa made all tournaments and exhibition games sanctioned then this problem and blatant disrespect or bypassing of the rules wouldn't occur. OFSSAA should just say that all high school teams can only have eligible players playing for them and high school teams can only play games against other high schools with eligible players. I think the high school scene should demand some respect and make this change.
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    Post by Xavier Rimrocker Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:26 pm

    tart11 wrote:I have a question for Xavier rimrocker or anyone else knowledgeable about eligibiltiy, why wouldn't OFSSAA ban ineligible players all together. Meaning that ineligible players cannot compete for high school teams or against high school teams. What stops a coach from recruiting 6-7 kids at a school. They play in 8-9 tournaments for their grade 11 year and sit out the league season, then the next year they are eligible to play in league and OFSSAA cause technically they sat out a year.

    IF ofssaa made all tournaments and exhibition games sanctioned then this problem and blatant disrespect or bypassing of the rules wouldn't occur. OFSSAA should just say that all high school teams can only have eligible players playing for them and high school teams can only play games against other high schools with eligible players. I think the high school scene should demand some respect and make this change.

    It's an interesting question and something that OFSAA will almost certainly address at some point. However, I believe the reason they can't ban the players outright is because they can only set the rules for play that leads to OFSAA competition. That means league and playoff games for teams and players that can advance to OFSAA. So, a result, it's up to each region to set rules for all other games.

    In some areas, tier 2 teams are not subject to the same transfer rules as tier 1 because the teams are not eligible for OFSAA play. It's the same theory that leads some regions to allow players to compete in league and exhibition games.

    Having said that, if a league feels that the rules are being abused in the example you mentioned, then you can be sure that a review of the rule would be in the works for the following season.
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    Post by jt Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:34 pm

    what the heck are all you losers talking about, St. Martins is a "Prep" team, if they are prep, you all better call Henry Carr and Eastern Commerce a prep team, cuz none of their players live in their school boundary. Plus most of those guys who transferred to st. martins live around the school, not like they from brampton or other far places from the peel region. Suck it up, st. martins is a prep team, just as much as every powerhouse in tdsb is prep team, what you got to say to that?
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    Post by jt Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:36 pm

    by the way i heard loyola oakville has kids going there not directly in their school boundary and this was also happening in the past couple of years.
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    Post by tart11 Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:44 pm

    the difference is that all of the toronto teams may have one or two guys who transfer, but they still are very competitive. St martin wouldn't be on the map of high school basketball in Greenland if it wasn't for their recruited players...

    For the record Eastern and Carr have at least 2 kids each from Brampton on their rosters....but alot of Carr's and Eastern's kids start school there at grade 9, even if they are from out of area. Thats why they are competitive every year.
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    Post by NBA Lockout Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:49 pm

    jt wrote:by the way i heard loyola oakville has kids going there not directly in their school boundary and this was also happening in the past couple of years.

    who exactly were these players? last year a new role player was forced to sit for half the season until all the paperwork went through and he was allowed to play.
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    Post by Peel Fan Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:50 pm

    JT, if you're going to come in and start calling out posters and teams at least try to know the rules first. OFSAA doesn't care where a player lives, only that they are eligible. St. Martins can have players from anywhere they want but they have to be eligible and they screwed that one up so they aren't. It's as simple as that.

    You can look foolish and call out Carr and Eastern but they have followed the rules. Both of their boards allow students from outside the boundaries and since they entered in grade 9, they are completely legitimate.

    That's a far cry from a bunch of fifth year players suddenly "moving" together to the same place near the school and without their legal guardians. Unfortunately for them, that means they are not eligible.

    If they all want to play together and win medals then let them go play for a club instead of taking roster spots from eligible players.
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    Post by jt Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:57 pm

    who cares doesn't matter if they start in grade 9 or 12 same thing in my books, just taking peel coaches longer to become smarter and doing same thing those sneaky tdsb coaches doing.
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    Post by Peel Fan Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:01 pm

    jt, the sun can rise in the west in your books, too but that doesn't change the facts. Being obstinate about something is just as bad as being uninformed about it.

    Besides, if the goal is for Peel coaches to do the same thing then the St. Martins coach was pretty dumb, don't you think?

    If you want to build a powerhouse, you do it from grade 9, instead of getting impatient and trying to do it in one season.
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    Post by actionjackson Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:07 am

    Just a thougt.... there was a post asking about transferring from a tier 2 school to a tier 1 school. Sounds like this kids is planning something on his own without being recruited by any coach.

    My point is, we shouldn't jumped to conclusions and assume its always the coach recruiting kids.

    I am sure most of the transferring and moving schools are thought up and executed by the students themselves and their parents. (not all but most of the time)


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