Top Male ballers in the Durham Region.

Who in your opinon are the top ballers in Durham going into the high school season 2009?

Also most Under rated player in 2009?

1. Rob Gagliardi (Pickering)
2. Jonathan Tull (Pickering)
3. Isiah Swaby (Pine Ridge)
4. Mammadou Mutumbo (Pickering)
5. Troy Joseph (Pickering)
6. Adrian Tucker (St. Mary's)
7. Justin Jarrett (J Clarke)
8. Janoi Wright (Pine Ridge)
9. Kevin Thomas (Pickering)
10. Rowan Bennett (Pickering)
11. Adam Pummer (Pine Ridge)
12. Liban Hassan (Pickering)
13. Norm Penola (Notre Dame)
14. Damone Donaldson (Notre Dame)
15. Leon Alexander (J Clarke)

I just lost all respect for you rerun after seeing that list...

I didn't know you had respect for me in the first place so I'm alright with that. So what is your opinion? Why don't you put together a list and I'll tell you my feelings?

Rerun, as you know, not everyone is going to agree with your a list. It's hard to compare players because not everyone plays the same position. For example, a guard will always dominate the ball more than a forward, and as a result will take more shot and scoring more points. Most people will rank a player by the amount of points he/she scores and not looking at his/her overall game.

To underscore my point, take a look at your list and notice that the top three players on it are guards. I am sure that is for that same reason why these players are on top of your list.

I am a little different than most people when it comes to making a top players list. I looked at the players overall game, not just is ability to score points, but the other things that player bring to his team. If scoring is the main premise of how you derive your list, then Rob Gagliardi is the best player in Durham. But what else can Rob bring to the table other then being a scorer? Now, you see where I am going with this.

Frankly speaking this is a good list although I may not agree with the the ranking of the players. Durham may not be the strongest region in the GTA, but some of the players on this list are as good some regards as any other is the GTA and beyond.

Here is my top three:

1. Jonathan Tull - A lock down defender, can score in a variety of ways like attacking the basket, improved mid range game and and tireless worker. Plays with heart, hungry and wants to get better

2. Adrian Tucker - an improved offensive game - not exclusively a post player anymore, solid mid range jumper, very good rebounder, decent shot blocker for a guy only 6' 4". Will hurt you with good inside scoring and can now put it on the ground and attach the basket.

3. Rob Gagliardi - Pure shooter, can light it up from mid range or three point distance, can and will attack the basket when given the opportunity. Does not rebound or block shot, his lack of size (6' 1") hurts him in that department.

[quote="Tango"]Rerun, as you know, not everyone is going to agree with your a list. It's hard to compare players because not everyone plays the same position. For example, a guard will always dominate the ball more than a forward, and as a result will take more shot and scoring more points. Most people will rank a player by the amount of points he/she scores and not looking at his/her overall game.

To underscore my point, take a look at your list and notice that the top three players on it are guards. I am sure that is for that same reason why these players are on top of your list.

I am a little different than most people when it comes to making a top players list. I looked at the players overall game, not just is ability to score points, but the other things that player bring to his team. If scoring is the main premise of how you derive your list, then Rob Gagliardi is the best player in Durham. But what else can Rob bring to the table other then being a scorer? Now, you see where I am going with this.

Frankly speaking this is a good list although I may not agree with the the ranking of the players. Durham may not be the strongest region in the GTA, but some of the players on this list are as good in some regards as any other in the GTA and beyond.

Here is my top three:

1. Jonathan Tull - A lock down defender, can score in a variety of ways like attacking the basket, improved mid range game and and tireless worker. Plays with heart, hungry and wants to get better

2. Adrian Tucker - an improved offensive game - not exclusively a post player anymore, solid mid range jumper, very good rebounder, decent shot blocker for a guy only 6' 4". Will hurt you with good inside scoring and can now put it on the ground and attach the basket.

3. Rob Gagliardi - Pure shooter, can light it up from mid range or three point distance, can and will attack the basket when given the opportunity. Does not rebound or block shot, his lack of size (6' 1") hurts him in that department.[/quote]

[quote="Tango"][quote="Tango"]Rerun, as you know, not everyone is going to agree with your a list. It's hard to compare players because not everyone plays the same position. For example, a guard will always dominate the ball more than a forward, and as a result will take more shot and scoring more points. Most people will rank a player by the amount of points he/she scores and not looking at his/her overall game.

To underscore my point, take a look at your list and notice that the top three players on it are guards. I am sure that is for that same reason why these players are on top of your list.

I am a little different than most people when it comes to making a top players list. I looked at the players overall game, not just is ability to score points, but the other things that player bring to his team. If scoring is the main premise of how you derive your list, then Rob Gagliardi is the best player in Durham. But what else can Rob bring to the table other then being a scorer? Now, you see where I am going with this.

Frankly speaking this is a good list although I may not agree with the the ranking of the players. Durham may not be the strongest region in the GTA, but some of the players on this list are as good in some regards as any other in the GTA and beyond.

Here is my top three:

1. Jonathan Tull - A lock down defender, can score in a variety of ways like attacking the basket, improved mid range game and and tireless worker. Plays with heart, hungry and wants to get better

2. Adrian Tucker - an improved offensive game - not exclusively a post player anymore, solid mid range jumper, very good rebounder, decent shot blocker for a guy only 6' 4". Will hurt you with good inside scoring and can now put it on the ground and attach the basket.

3. Rob Gagliardi - Pure shooter, can light it up from mid range or three point distance, can and will attack the basket when given the opportunity. Does not rebound or block shot, his lack of size (6' 1") hurts him in that department.

What about players that arent point guards
your top 3 players are all point guards.

The point gaurd of a good team is always
in the Lime light.

Tango,

I hear you! I don't expect people to agree with me at all. I just wanted to initiate some discussion about Durham Basketball since we are approaching the start of the Senior Boys season. Secondly, it seems Peel, York, Toronto and every other region seems to do these type of lists so why not "Durham". I just quickly put out some names of players from different schools in the area. Unfortunately, I could not come up with anybody east of Ajax. I tried though. I'm still waiting for DG-10 to weigh with his list since he thinks that I'm so far off base. Personally, I can't be that far off.....there is no Corey Joseph, Devoe Joseph, Kurt Alexander, Juveol Myles, Dwayne Smith, Jon Lafountaine, or Justin Wiltshire to choose from. That was a super talented class that just exited...probably the best class ever in the history of Durham basketball.

It is an educated guess. Pickering has a lot of transfer students and so does Pine Ridge and a few other schools as well so we'll see where the new guys fit in. I see your rationale for putting Jonathan Tull as the #1 player. I haven't seen Adrian Tucker play in a long while so I could not rank him that high. Now, I disagree on one point....Isiah Swaby is not really a guard..he plays usually plays the 3 or 4 actually, but can handle the ball if needed.

I agree with rerun but i think there is
alot of up and comming players.
That have the potential to be as good if not better than some
of these players.

Jermaine Myers,(pickering)
I believe is a force to be reckoned with.
Also
Andrew Aboraa (Ajax) and
Adam Plummer(Pine Ridge) have this chemistry
while on the court together(OBA) seem to
be up incomers to the game.

A few more years and thy're there in my opinon.

I think the top 3 players in Durham are:

Jonathan Tull
Rob G.
Troy Joseph

Just my opinion I haven't seen guys like Adrian Tucker or Mammadou Mutumbo play so can't comment on them.

Also rerun some players east of Ajax (don't know any of their last names):

Tristan (Donald A Wilson)
Ryan (Sinclair)
Josh (O'neill)
Kadean and Jared (All Saints)

Also I hear All Saints now has Junior Campbell who used to play for pine ridge. Not sure if thats true or not.

I like your list rerun and agree with most of your choices. At the end of the day, we will have to wait and see what happens when the season starts. There's always lots of hidden talent out there, I'm excited to see who will really stand out. Good job being brave enough to be the only person to actually go out there and put out a full list. I don't watch enough of the other schools to make any suggestions, but obviously you have so nice job!

Don't forget Daniel Levy(St. Mary) only in Gr.11 but probably the best shooter in durham; also his game improved alot, thanks to his commitment with the Grassroots program.

Top 15

[quote="sebastian31"]Top 15

1)Rob Gagliardi (Pickering)
2)Jonathan Tull (Pickering)
3)Mick Mctosh (Pickering)
4)Troy Joseph (Pickering)
5)Norman Penola (Notre Dame
6)Liban Hasan (Pickering)
7)Tristan Stern (Wilson)
8)Mammadu Mutombo (Pickering)
9)Kevin Thomas (Pickering)
10)Isaiah Swaby (Pineridge)
11)Adrian Tucker (St.Mary's)
12)Justin Jarret (J Clarke)
13)Damone Donaldson (Notre Dame)
14)Daniel Levy (St.Mary's)
15)Leon Alexander (J Clarke)[/quote]

Mick came back from the U.S.?