ST MIKES

how r dey doign this year

who r their other players beside duane notice

do they deserve their automatic 4A OFSAA SPOT?

there starters are
eric roth
duane notice
george mason
king gabriel
and andrew dawson

No one deserves an automatic OFSAA AAAA berth, even if it's Pickering, Eastern or Mother Teresa. Every team should have to beat someone in their conference in order to qualify or win a qualifier against another conference.

As far as I know, St. Mike's is the only OFSAA basketball participant at any level who does not have to beat anyone to qualify. That is not right. If there are other teams then it's not right for them either.

why do they not have to beat anyone to qualify for ofsaa?

Yeah I would also like to know how a team gets an automatic berth into OFFSA

St. Mikes gets an automatic entry to AAAA OFSAA because they are the only AAAA team in CISAA.

however UCC is the only AAA team in CISAA and they still must play the TDCAA champion to gain entry.

Teams like Ridley and Crescent also have to play TDCAA Champions on their road to OFSAA.

Based on this system St. Mikes should have to play the TDCAA champion or runner-up.

What is the CISAA

the Private School League

if any team in CISAA has a problem with it they should declare AAAA and go take them on!

Sounds like sour grapes UCC Basketball.

Why? In any other region with so little competition at a particular size category, OFSAA requires the regional champion to play off against another region.

In A, the COSSA and NCSSAA champions play off; the GBSSA and LOSSA champions play off; the GHAC and ROPSSAA champions play off and the YRAA and TDCAA champions play off.

In AA, the CISAA and TDCAA champions play off; the GHAC and ROPSSAA champions play off; and the LOSSA and YRAA champions play off.

In AA, the CISAA and TDCAA champions play off; and the ROPSSAA and GHAC champions play off.

Even in AAAA, where there are 18 berths and fewer regions are involved, making it easier to fit slots, the NCSSAA champion must accept challenges from COSSA and EOSSAA. Yet even Ottawa still has more AAAA teams (5) than the CISSA (1 - St. Mike's).

It makes you wonder why this isn't the case with CISAA AAAA. The only answer that immediately comes to mind is OFSAA politics and St. Mike's influence over high school sports.

I too have wondered why it is so easy for St. Mikes to get a birth. I would be cautious about suggesting any wrong doing until you know some facts however. I know that there are some people who view this message board that are either a part of the ofsaa exec or at least have a good inclination to how decisions have been made at the ofsaa level. Perhaps one of them can offer insight? Not to change the subject too much, but I also find it interesting how there are more teams in some ofsaa tournaments than others (eg AAAA basketball has 18 teams but AAA only gets 16). I am guessing, but I would think that there are more AAA schools in the province of Ontario than AAAA. In fact, year after year teams that are not AAAA in size end up winning the AAAA championship! It would be interesting to see an explanation as to how for AAAA there are 18 regions in Ontario but in AAA there are only 16.

I once talked with an OFSAA official who explained that the increased number in AAAA was an attempt to balance the large proportion of dominant teams from the GTA with the need to be inclusive of the rest of Ontario. It was also due to the fact that so many top AAA and AA teams tend to declare as AAAA.

"St. Mike's influence over high school sports"
what's that supposed to mean- maybe we should call in Mulder and Scully to solve this mystery

It means that in my days, St. Mike's was the goliath of school athletics and the alumni was a "who's who" of politicians, business leaders, sports administrators, and influential athletes, among other areas. I don't think there is something nefarious going on but I'm sure a lot of interested alumni offered their two cents to OFSAA on the issue. One need only look at the Star and Mr. Grossman to see the kind of hold the school has over GTA athletics. Don't kid yourself into thinking it's just one former high athlete wannabe with a crush on the program.

I'm open to hearing other suggestions as to why, once St. Mike's moved their basketball team from TDCAA to CISAA (a couple of years after the region became OFSAA eligible), the region no longer had to play off against the Georgian Bay champion.

How many times has St. Mike's won OFSSAA?

Never.

Has a Peel Team ever won OFSAA? I could be wrong but I don't recall it happening. They have 2 reps every year- don't know what point you're trying to make-obviously there are fewer schoosl that have won OFSAA than there are schools that participate- you're right St. Mike's has never won OfSAA but neither have any of the 20+Peel schools even though there have been some fantastic teams out of the region- they have a few really good ones this year also. I wish them the best at the provincial championship as they represent their league and vie for the title just like all of the other teams that are there- only one will be crowned champion per division- tough tourney to win as there are more than 700 schools in the province that field teams.

im pretty sure that pickering won it back to back in the AAAA OFSAA chamionshios with devon joesph a couple of years ago

realdeal, I think you need to take a deep breath and then read the thread again. I have never once written that St. Mike's doesn't deserve a direct berth because they have never won OFSAA. I wrote that they don't deserve a direct berth because they are the only AAAA boys school in CISAA.

ROPSSAA has 38 AAAA schools, the most of any region in Ontario, so your comparison of the two regions is pretty silly.

grossman reported for the star in his blog that george mason is now ineligable... wht happened

George Mason has been a wet shooter from 3 this year and duane is one of the best players out there so i think st mikes is legit

ball0 wrote:grossman reported for the star in his blog that george mason is now ineligable... wht happened

I assume it's because he changed schools but his legal residence (and legal guardians) is still in Orillia.

So what happens now? He is ineligible for the remainder of the year...is he in grade 11 or is his high school career done? Does anything happen to St. Mikes?

CISAA transfer rules are more forgiving than OFSAA. He is still eligible for league play but not for OFSAA.