HooptownGTA's Pre-Season Super 16 - released Nov 5

HooptownGTA's Pre-Season Super 16 - Released November 5, 2008

1. Mother Teresa
2. Eastern Commerce
3. Oakwood
4. Pickering
5. Henry Carr
6. West Hill
7. d'Youville
8. Campion
9. Martingrove
10. Loyola
11. Vaughan
12. Pine Ridge
13. Central Commerce
14. Emery
15. Jefferys
16. St. Francis Xavier

HM: Ascension, Father Goetz, Markham, Pope John Paul, Runnymede, St. Theresa of Lisieux, West Humber

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Great job!

If you haven't visited the main website you should. A nice breakdown on the top teams - gives a great idea of why they are picked where they are.

One player I was wondering about is Isaiah Swaby an extremely athletic player who would be Gr. 12 this year at Pine Ridge. Where is he now?

wen will the players 2 look out for post cum out??

That is true! Isiah Swaby is missing from the Pine Ridge Roster and so is their PG Point Guard. I guess there was some mistake with the information because Isiah and Janoi are still at Pine Ridge and on the basketball team. However, there are two players mentioned on the roster that are definitely not on the team.

That's two real top-level players!

Definitely well put together list Rick/Hooptown GTA...
We all appreciate the work that you do and everything you are doing for Toronto Basketball.

Based on our game last night, Vaughan is a solid team for sure and they will be a team to watch out for.

Mother Theresa and Eastern Commerce return some very talented players and are well Coached, the #1 and #2 spots are deserved as well.

I Coach a couple of the Pickering guys with Grassroots, and they have a very talented team also.

We at West Hill will have our work cut out for us for sure in a super competitive Toronto Basketball landscape.

Should be a very exciting season with some very tough and competitive teams!!

I just checked the original email from Pine Ridge, and I did miss their two returning starters from last season's team. I will make the correction later on.

Returning Starters:
Janoi Wright, Grade 12, 5ft-9 point guard
Isiah Swaby, Gr. 12, 6ft-3 SF

Slick Rick,

You've done a good job my friend. We appreciate all that you do to support high school basketball. I know people don't see the work you do behind the scenes to make all this happen....but I have over the years.....I just want to say thanks again.

Rick, are Halton teams eligible for the ranking?

If the answer is yes, did anyone you talk to mention Holy Trinity or Assumption?

If the answe is no, why would the region not be included as Halton is officially part of the GTA?

Peel Fan,

A few coaches did include Assumption in the Pre-Season Super 16. However, I find it very difficult to rank the Halton team on a weekly basis, due to the fact that the Halton teams hardly play other teams in the GTA.

The weekly Super 16 rankings are based only on GTA games, so I don't take into account if a GTA team defeats or loses to a team from outside the GTA (let's say a team from Windsor for example). From past history, the Halton teams have hardly played other teams in the GTA, and I find that they tend to head west and not east.

I will keep my eye on Assumption and Holy Trinity and if they play some games vs. other GTA teams, then I will start to include them in the weekly Super 16 rankings.

One question; Where's Borden?

Thanks, Rick. I never realized that you don't use games against non-GTA teams. What if an unranked team went to a strong tournament in a place like Hamilton and won the whole thing against the likes of Cathedral, Orchard Park, More, etc. Would that be taken into consideration?

Keep your eyes open for Assumption...they deserve to be in the top 16 if you include halton teams.

I think Notre Dame(Ajax) and Vaughan Road will surprise some teams.

[quote="mhawks"]I think Notre Dame(Ajax) and Vaughan Road will surprise some teams.[/quote]

Durham Region:

Notre Dame (Ajax) 65 - (Norman Penola 32pts, Damone Donaldson 18pts)
Pine Ridge 52 - (Isiah Swaby 21pts, Cj Williams 16pts)

dame is certainly going to suprise teams just taking out pine ridge in double digets, lookin forward to seeing them play top10 squads.......i was suprised i never seen vaughn rd. in the top 16, i thought they were top 3 in the west, but i guess hooptown knows somthing that we dont, they must have lost alot of playes and martingrove, runnymede and west humber must have shown they have more

Tell me how Loyola made the top 16

[quote="Peel Fan"]Thanks, Rick. I never realized that you don't use games against non-GTA teams. What if an unranked team went to a strong tournament in a place like Hamilton and won the whole thing against the likes of Cathedral, Orchard Park, More, etc. Would that be taken into consideration?[/quote]


There are always special situations that are taken into consideration, however, I tend to focus on GTA match-ups only.

Now The CARR EARLY BIRD and ST.MIKE and other tourney's are over here is the new perspective on the SWEET16:

(note: DNP=did not play)

1. Pickering- defeated MT by 11
2. Eastern Commerce- defeated Oakwood
3. Oakwood-lost to Eastern by 4
4. Mother Teresa- lost to Pickering
5. Henry Carr- defeated Vaughn in 13 in a close game
6. Vaughan- lost to Henry Carr, defeated West Hill
7. West Hill- lost to Vaughan by 10
8. d'Youville*DNP
9. Campion-*DNP
10. Loyola- defeated Martingrove
11. Martingrove- defeated St. Theresa of Lisieux, lost to Loyola
12. Pine Ridge- lost to Eastern, lost to Notre Dame(ajax) by13 in Exhibition play
13. Central Commerce-*DNP
14. Emery-*DNP
15. Jefferys-lost to West Hill
16. George Harvey- defeated St.Francis Xavier

HM: Notre Dame(ajax), Father Goetz, Runnymede, St. Francis Xavier, Ascension, Markham, Westview, St. Theresa of Lisieux, Earl Haig




NOTE:

One thing i learned from all these results and watching a few tournaments is that any team is BEATABLE at any given night

example:

#5 Carr- struggling vs. #11 Vaughn (tied 2:43 minutes left 4th)--Vaughn living at the 3pt line
#9 Martingrove- up on #1 Mother Teresa 1st half (back and forth until mid 4th)
#10 Loyola- blowing out the same #9 Martingrove team that almost upset #1 Mother Teresa
#4 Pickering- handling #1 Mother Teresa
#3 Oakwood- almost upsetting #2 Eastern
#11 Vaughn- defeated #6 West Hill by 10 @Vaughn SS. Tournament
#12 Pine Ridge- lost to Notre Dame(ajax) in Exhibition?..there must have been a reason(absent players, ect..)
George Harvey- win Silverthorn Nike Invitational deafeating #16 St. Francis Xavier

SO THIS IS THE ONLY YEAR THAT I CAN SAY THERE CAN BE SURPRISES ANYWHERE ....(this is exciting and this is what i call basketball)

Good job Coach Bob

[quote="MoneyBall"]Tell me how Loyola made the top 16[/quote]

Loyola won the consolation championship at Henry Carr last weekend. I think they've proven that they belong in the top 16 right now.

If you actually saw Loyola play at the Henry Carr Early Bird tourney, you would not doubt that team for a one second. Loyola is quick, athletic and intense. They get out in transition in a lightening quick manner, they pressure the ball constantly on defense and have some depth to. Slick Rick did his homework and his pre-season ranking is rather accurate.

After watching two of their games at Carr, I think Loyola will definitely be a contender in Peel this year. Very athletic, play pressure defense and have a few guys who can finish. Was very impressed. They may be the favourites in the south but we will have to see how the other teams stack up.

[quote="Coach Bob"]Now The CARR EARLY BIRD and ST.MIKE and other tourney's are over here is the new perspective on the SWEET16:

(note: DNP=did not play)

1. Pickering- defeated MT by 11
2. Eastern Commerce- defeated Oakwood
3. Oakwood-lost to Eastern by 4
4. Mother Teresa- lost to Pickering
5. Henry Carr- defeated Vaughn in 13 in a close game
6. Vaughan- lost to Henry Carr, defeated West Hill
7. West Hill- lost to Vaughan by 10
8. d'Youville*DNP
9. Campion-*DNP
10. Loyola- defeated Martingrove
11. Martingrove- defeated St. Theresa of Lisieux, lost to Loyola
12. Pine Ridge- lost to Eastern, lost to Notre Dame(ajax) by13 in Exhibition play
13. Central Commerce-*DNP
14. Emery-*DNP
15. Jefferys-lost to West Hill
16. George Harvey- defeated St.Francis Xavier

HM: Notre Dame(ajax), Father Goetz, Runnymede, St. Francis Xavier, Ascension, Markham, Westview, St. Theresa of Lisieux, Earl Haig




NOTE:

One thing i learned from all these results and watching a few tournaments is that any team is BEATABLE at any given night

example:

#5 Carr- struggling vs. #11 Vaughn (tied 2:43 minutes left 4th)--Vaughn living at the 3pt line
#9 Martingrove- up on #1 Mother Teresa 1st half (back and forth until mid 4th)
#10 Loyola- blowing out the same #9 Martingrove team that almost upset #1 Mother Teresa
#4 Pickering- handling #1 Mother Teresa
#3 Oakwood- almost upsetting #2 Eastern
#11 Vaughn- defeated #6 West Hill by 10 @Vaughn SS. Tournament
#12 Pine Ridge- lost to Notre Dame(ajax) in Exhibition?..there must have been a reason(absent players, ect..)
George Harvey- win Silverthorn Nike Invitational deafeating #16 St. Francis Xavier

SO THIS IS THE ONLY YEAR THAT I CAN SAY THERE CAN BE SURPRISES ANYWHERE ....(this is exciting and this is what i call basketball)[/quote]

actually i dont fully agree with it anymore

why?????

in all of pine ridges games so far pine ridge has only had 2 regular starters and one of there big men cant play so there only big man is in grade 11 and he hasent played in any games yet and there missing there point guard and mumadu mutumbo.