HooptownGTA's Super 16 - released Dec 7th

Maybe the reason is that there is a lot more balance between teams this year. Holy Trinity has been one of the top basketball programs in Halton for a few years and Sandalwood has been a top contender in junior the past couple of years so it makes sense that would translate into success at the senior level this year.

What's so horrible about a larger number of teams in contention for the various GTA titles this year?

Loyola is a good a team, but those who live by the three, eventually die by the three. When their perimeter game is off, their interior game and defence are not there to carry them.

Loyola is a good team, but it is always more difficult to play against traditional rivals...I'm sure HT were given a game plan and match ups were important in this game. Always easier to play someone in a tournament where very little scouting has taken place.

People in the GTA seem to sleep on Halton yet they always come up with good teams...
probably a matter of respect and lack of knowledge, this is understandable. The Halton league is tough this year with 4 excellent teams and and a variety of good ones.
Don't include Assumption in that group as their run is over, very little is left from last years highly ranked team......then again some don't want to include Halton in their ranking. It is funny that Hamilton dismisses Halton and the GTA for the most part ignore them.

RealTalksz wrote:Wow Holy Trinity beats #2 Loyola ..? Sandlewood beats #6 Campion..? there must be a reason for these loses because that is just horrible..

Late seasons for football at schools in Halton are often a factor in the early games. By late January the picture will be much clearer. As was noted the league is probably more competitive right now than in many, many years.

Super 16 Boys

1. Oakwood
2. Henry Carr
3. Loyola Oakville
4. Eastern Commerce
5. Pickering
6. Martingrove
7. Campion
8. Vaughan
9. JC Richardson
10. Pine Ridge
11. Mother Teresa
12. St. Francis Xavier
13. George Harvey
14. St. Mike's
15. Jarvis
16. Notre Dame Brampton

Honourable Mentions: Brampton Centennial, Laurier, Holy Trinity Oakville, Pope John Paul II, Nelson Burlington, d'Youville, Notre Dame (Ajax)

Very nice and accurate list, but it needs a few changes in my opinion.

I don't think ND (Brampton) should be top 16, but HM. If you place a new team in the Super 16 it should be Holy Trinity for beating Loyola or Sandalwood for beating Campion. Go with HT since Loyola was ranked higher then Campion.

Not sure why Nelson is on there.

1. Oakwood
2. Henry Carr
3. Loyola Oakville
4. Eastern Commerce
5. Pickering
6. Martingrove
7. Vaughan
8. Pine Ridge
9. Mother Teresa
10. JC Richardson
11. Campion
12. St. Francis Xavier
13. George Harvey
14. St. Mike's
15. Jarvis
16. Holy Trinity

Honourable Mentions: Brampton Centennial, Notre Dame (Brampton), Laurier, Pope John Paul II, Sandalwood, Emery, Dennison, d'Youville, Westview, Markham, Ascension, Vaughan Rd, Northern, Father Goetz

All of the HM teams have been inconsistent, but are solid squads that can beat any lower super 16 team.








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After this weekend's results. i think Loyola Oakville should switch spots with Henry Carr, and Eastern Commerce should b moved up a few spots. Martingrove down a couple, Mother Theresa Down a couple. and Holy Trinity should b somewhere in that list after beating Loyola

D'youville should move up to the top of the honourable mention list. In my humble opinion, they are a legit top 16 team...somewhere between 10-12. I think that they'll make some noise in the Rimrocker tomorrow. Their opening game against J Clarke Richardson should be interesting. I think the winner of that game takes the tournament and the loser will win the consolation game.

I think martingrove should move down a lot. Yes they had a good game against Carr, but they also lost to Carr by 20, lost to Richardson, laurier, vaughan, and campion. I think they should be around 10-11 spot.

1. Oakwood
2. Henry Carr
3. Loyola Oakville
4. Eastern Commerce
5. Pickering
6. Martingrove
7. Vaughan
8. Pine Ridge
9. Mother Teresa
10. JC Richardson
11. Campion
12. St. Francis Xavier
13. George Harvey
14. St. Mike's
15. Jarvis
16. Holy Trinity
17. Pope John Paull II
18. Notre Dame (Brampton)
19. d'Youville
20. Brampton Centennial
21. Emery
22. Laurier
23. Vaughan Road
24. Westview
25. Markham
26. Ascension
27. Sandalwood
28. Dennison
29. Father Goetz
30. Northern

I have gone out to all the MAJOR tournaments, the Carr Early Bird, the Humber Classic, the Mark Walton in Hamilton, the Holiday Classic....and no Oakwood...in my humble opinion, Oakwood is ducking the competition. How can we rank them in the one spot when they hide from the big boys? Eastern, Pickering, Carr, they never hide from anyone.

Does anyone agree or disagree?

why silverthorn is not on a top 30 list is beyond me.
They won the southwood invatitional this week winning four game. Vaughn road who you put at 23 beat runnymede by 15 today. silverthorn beat them by 31. They beat richview by 18 and eci by 30. IMO they have to be atleast hon.mention

Silverthorn is a solid team, very well coached. Needs to be considered for top 30. They need a statement win.

i agree. they caught loyola early in the year but trailed that game until late in the 4th. i think i rematch would be suffice. your right though, even backing out of the rimrocker seems fishy. court heinbuch and SOSI were very weak this year. we will see the true oakwood come st mike tourny time and at the silver fox where loyola will most likely meet them in the finals!

Now that you guys mention it, I think Oakwood's number 1 ranking is dependant on the fact that they beat Loyola early in the year and Loyola has put up some impressive victories in return. Who else has Oakwood played against?

lol tart11 loyola was missing there 6'10 center who has given teams trouble. with him loyola beats oakwood hands down!

Father Michael McGuivney 59
Markham 53

Eastern Commerce 73 (Aaron Best, 14), Northern 56 (Abraham Beik, 21);

oakwoods only other key victories include pine ridge early in the year, mother teresa by 3 and st thomas more in the court heinbuch. they also beat a very weak dyouville team in the finals at sosi.

well we will see oakwood in the st.mikes tourny in january with the other top teams..

oakwood is the best team in gta right now... beating loyola who has beaten pretty much everyone else... and beating mother theresa shows they are the best why punish a team that hasnt lost or didnt have the oppurtunity to down loyola with there big kid until then or the st mikes they are undefeated

League games
Holy Trinity (Oakville) 56 - #2 Loyola (Oakvile) 52
Sandalwood 56 - #6 Campion 55
Notre Dame (Brampton) 63 (Stefan Simpson 18) - d'Youville 61 (Manny Sahota 25)
Cardinal Leger 75 - St Augustine 74
St Joseph 71 - St Augusine 62
#4 Pickering 62 (Rowan Bennett 19) - #11 Pine Ridge 48 (Mamadou Mutombo 11)

Other games of interest:
St Marcellinus 57 - Mississauga 52
#14 St Francis Xavier 63 - Mississauga 62
#16 Jarvis 65 (Mussa Noble-Mohammad 25) - Northern 61 (Abe Beik 15) OT
#15 George Harvey 79 (Nikoy Robinson 17) - Vaughan Road 70 (David Gouldbourne 26)
Martingrove 66 (Matthew Wright 28) - Vaughan Road 50 (Lennyus Eleuthere 13) - Holiday Classic
Markham 69 (Brandon Bos 35) - Northern 63 (Abraham Betic 20) - Prestige Holiday Classic

At the Vaughan Classic
#7 Vaughan 75 (Motii Ali 31) - Brampton Centennial 42 (Paul Williams 17)

At the Holiday Classic
#11 Pine Ridge 66 (Mamadou Mutumbo 32) - #16 Jarvis 60 (Haron Shadrach 32)
#3 Henry Carr 81 (Raheem Isaac 27) - Father Goetz 66 (Dimetri Bailey 20)
#11 Pine Ridge 71 (Shavon Miller 16) - #5 Mother Teresa 67 (Richie Kanza 19)
#4 Pickering 68 (Rowan Bennett 21) - #12 Laurier 48 (Daniel Mullings 17)
#9 Eastern Commerce 62 (Matheiu Johnson 16) - d'Youville 51 (Manny Sahota 14)
#3 Henry Carr 61 (Raheem Isaac 20) - #8 Martingrove 41 (Justin Bakuteka 16)
#16 Jarvis 56 (Aaron Shadrach 24) - Father Goetz 42 (Ryan Goberdhan 16)
Denison 70 (Kevin Pangos 24) - Emery 64 (Anthony Ottley 34)
#9 Eastern 72 (Aaron Best 20) - #4 Pickering 62 (Mikyle McIntosh 22)
#3 Henry Carr (Raheem Issac 26) - #11 PineRidge 54 (Mamadou Mutumbo 27)
#3 Henry Carr 57 (Jahmal Grennan 14) - #9 Eastern Commerce 55 (Aaron Best 10)

That is a weak argument foreveryoung! Beating Loyola is a quality win. But beating MT does not make Oakwood #1, MT has lost to several teams, including Carr who beat them by double digits. You cannot praise a team for playing in weaker tournament, and you can punish them for the same reason. And now they backed out of the Rimrocker? Why? The field is weak, it is perfect for their mentality. I am not disrespecting them, but until they play the top teams on a regular basis, I will doubt their true ability.

#3 Henry Carr 69 (Raheem Isaac 20) #11 Pine Ridge 54 (Mamadou Mutumbo 27)

i just feel you cant blame the team that puts in work everytime they play cuz there coach doesnt put them in amazing tournaments... but i do aslo agree with you some what

so with all that being said. does that mean Henry Carr should have the #1 spot again?